but we've got to remember, both president bush and president obama have kept this country safe. and you know when you communicate with him personally, he takes nothing more seriously than being commander in chief, and he is not going to take a tool that saves american lives off the table, but he is open to having this conversation. he said it immediately and responded to michael pretty -- >> but here's the bottom line, executives, a republican and a democrat, believe the same thing, which is when you're fighting terror, the executives should have all the power, because you know what, if something goes bad on your watch, it's really bad. >> exactly, but the obama people do have an incentive for trying to do something about this, to put some limits on it. let me give you a statistic to illustrate that. we heard john brennan's comments about this is only a last resort, it's rarely that we do this. the total number of americans that have been killed by drone strikes under president obama is three. that happens to be exactly the same number of high-valued detainees who were water-boa